reeve whitson cia agent

It's almost inevitable, however, even if only in a small way but I get wary eventually, if I find myself saying the same thing again and again.Incidentally, big thanks to you for mentioning the "Inside the Manson jury" book by Herman Tubick. He was never convicted of anything that was deemed to be serious enough to have him put back in the years '67~'69. William Weston saidHatamis testimony on Whitson. I also suspect John Lennon's murder is simply another example of a CHAOS/COINTELPRO operation, to discredit the Beatles and demean opposition to the Vietnam War (as far fetched as it sounds). I don't buy into Bugliosis's Helter Skelter narrative however some of the girls have attested to This. Read up on their history. It was a probably Whitson tracking Abigail. He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. Border Patrol agents finally breached the door about 40 minutes to an hour later when a staff member gave them a key. She knew that the others were making fun of the flag, of the establishment. Someone above kept insisting he "popped up out of nowhere." What mystery within a mystery gnaws at you the most? He was probably there for the bike delivery, the hippie van delivery and at El Coyote dining. That is how I was able to write a 1200 page encyclopedia on Manson, etc. And when he did, he did it for things that were legally enforceable {dubious source of income, not reporting his whereabouts, aided by the suspicions of LASO that he was involved in car theft and was therefore being watched}. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. LONG before O'Neill's book CHAOS came out, I was tracking Reeve Whitson because his name came up in the ORIGINAL Tate-Labianca trial transcripts. She was probably 3 sheets to the wind at the time. Her Aunt says my friend knew several foreign languages and had a photographic memory back then. Reeve John Whitson 1924 1994 Indiana California Reeve John Whitson, 1924 - 1994. And then there was the investigation he helped Col. Tate conduct. The man comes across as a narcissistic hypocrite who also is a Mark Fuhrman apologist. I'm robust. He was driving a VW van. He'd get arrested, that's all.That makes absolutely no senseIt makes abundant sense. I wonder if some of you are so dismissive because your default position is to be skeptical, so you're not actually letting the information in. But SMOOOCH to you!!!! We don't the degree of his involvement or guilt. "pg201"Reeve was my main person to help me," PJ Tate said. LOL. Have a nice evening!!! However, to be fair to ONeill, when I said that Hatami mentioned Whitson four times, I was being a bit sloppy in my choice of words. ,fu A+N@Z"1lOE3I1.fna\Yic8$_vm\Q,Q Z c0#%^;xL`770 8T @/ )X G/ I certainly wouldn't play the game of being a tease but if I did, I wouldn't be irritated if people didn't take what I said with any great seriousness. He'd been talking to Gregg Jacobson about a race war {known then as "the shit is coming down" but it was very general} since they first met in May of '68. Whitson and Bugliosi then coerced Hatami's testimony by threatening him with deportation. That clears things up. And that was after he'd already been mentioned by VB.He said it was Reeve who brought him to Bugliosi during the investigationVery interesting the way you put that. [3] During World War II he enlisted in the . ", Lol "an impressive list of witnesses who vouch for him", all I see is one firmer film company president saying only "he knew about the Manson case", "Richard and Rita Edlund" whoever the fuck they were, Neil Cummings "a lawyer friend" of Whitsons (again WOW!! Winans was the one who coordinated the Tate-LaBianca killings. I saw footage of Manson the other day claiming he'd gone up to the Tate house before Chapman arrived to "see what my children had done." Sorry but I just dont believe he was in that house before Winifred and the cops got there, it would have been front page news at the time, and if you're saying Whitson knew the murders were taking place and did nothing to stop them then he'd have been suspect #1, Couple more things after reading your post, why of all people would Whitson call Hatami about the murders first? I wouldn't base any findings on what she says. He was a big talker and might have been a bit of Colonel Flagg type, but there is no doubt he had a lot of connections.How Whitson got so close to Bugliosi is strange and helped put pressure on Hatami. LOL. Family, friend, or fan, this family history biography is for you to remember Reeve Whitson. According to author Tom O'Neill, Hatami first shared his Charlie encounter story with possible CIA agent Reeve Whitson. ..the housekeeper* told me, "That flag has always been here. pg201"Reeve was my main person to help me," PJ Tate said. ), Whitsons wife (not exactly an objective witness), Linda Ruby a cousin of Whitsons (again, not objective), 2 detectives working on the TLB case who are desperate to find ANY motive in a case that appears to have none EXCEPT drugs and robbery, and a British film director claiming Whitson had "very good connections with LASO" along with thousands of other people in LA, If the FBI or CIA allowed the murders of 5 adults and one full term unborn baby to happen while supposedly surveilling the scene there would be an uprising in this country the likes of which haven't been seen since the Civil War. I read Chaos, and while O'Neill was unable to connect many dots, much of what he discovered was fascinating. Study the case properly, arm yourself with information that is there and you will see why he was not sent back to prison. Grim glad youre back, where have you been?Odd coincidence do you guys know the judge in the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway was Richard Jones, Quincy Jones brother. William Garretson claimed that on the afternoon of August 8 while hitchhiking back to Cielo, some guy dressed as a hippie, picked him up. My conclusion, given the research I've done so far, is MY FRIEND"S FATHER KNEW WHITSON (if Whitson existed) and used Whitson's information to disguise himself or Whitson used my friend's father's info to add to his own. It came with the house. Yes he did but I was talking about at first I had always heard he actually came looking for Manson and when he found him at Spahn Charlie was able to run his game on Dean and supposedly Dean became a disciple even giving Charlie a baby grand piano for free which I believe Charlie traded for the black bus, what's creepy about Dean is that he was old even in 69, he was born in 1920 which made him damn near a decade and a half older than Manson and 30 years older than the other members of the group. Frankly, if I was afraid of any comeback, I wouldn't even be getting involved in an on~line discussion that anyone in the world with an internet connection could chance upon. My book, CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, covers a lot of ground, police and prosecutor corruption, secret and mostly illegal government counterintelligence operations against American citizens (like the CIA's MKUltra and CHAOS, and the FBI's COINTELPRO), and, yes, the Manson Family murders of 1969. He got a call at 7 a.m. on Aug. 9, 1969 from an acquaintance named Reeve Whitson, whom Hatami described as a "mystery man." O'Neill found this characterization was universal among Whitson's. I'm not getting that from Helter Skelter, I'm getting that from Candace Bergen's auto-bio. It's the stuff conspiracy theories are made of ! But again, nobody saw him. The last is the clincher. In the case of Sharon's car, it didn't really matter because the book came out 3 years after the perps were convicted, 5 years after the crime was solved. And it just lingers in cyberspace and in time, becomes accepted as some kind of unshakable truth. This is from the Twilight Zone! That makes absolutely no sense. I traced Whitson online. My opinion was Charles Manson was not very good at all.So, does my Twitter inter-action with George Christie mean nothing to you? He might have been seated between Jay & Sharon at dinner, being BFF's with them and all.But then, he was Gone With the Wind.Sorry guys, I'm having a hard time believing that someone with super powers like this mysterious guy was so very close to Sharon & Jay, yet did nothing to prevent their murders. According to Bugliosi, p. 85, the time was between 7:30 and 8:00. Private Investigator Reeve Whitson CIA? "pg203John Irvin, British film director: "Whitson had very good connections with the Los Angeles Sheriff's Office. Along with Zamora's book {of whom he is highly critical} and John Baer's wife's book, it is gold dust for seeing the jury's perspective. There is a lot more here that doesn't add up. I am in Chapter 6, when Reeve Whitson is just being introduced as the cryptic CIA agent "He used his thumbnail to tear the top-right-hand corner of every piece of paper he handled, to mark it. I don't advocate people calling you names as has happened on this and another site and in fact, as you know, I defend you on that. I found Whitson to be the most interesting of the characters that O'Neill presented. He was very helpful with the police investigation and with District Attorney Bugliosi. Anderson was a known handler of CIA operatives after he left government in the early 60s. Whitson was apparently an enigmatic figure, but counted among his friends a large segment of Hollywood and business. I thought you surpassed yourself in bringing in such an authority as Quincy Jones to tell us all how Sharon's Dad led the investigators to Charles Manson.but Neil Cummings ! Melcher moved out in January '69 and the day after he moved out, Moorehouse was sent to prison for selling acid ~ he'd been found guilty on Dec 17th '68.Vera: Where'd ya learn that, Grim? And, if you look at the police reports, there are those who claim to have heard male voices outside hours after Watson, et al. One learns again that the jury were not sunshine supermen but flawed characters, just like us. William Weston said Hatami mentioned the name Reeve Whitson four times in his testimony at the Manson trialNo he did not. I'd be willing to buy it if you ever put just a amateurish copy of it together, at 1200 pgs it sounds like you've got alot of content in it, what would make it EXTRA special is if it was indexed, so often I've found myself looking for info on a specific person, date, place, incident, quote, etc and then having to Wade through a million google entries that go nowhere and in the case of some of the minutia of the case not being able to find anything at all on it, Also by "amateurish" I don't mean the content of it but the presentation, I'm not looking for anything put together by a professional publishing company or anything. Manson says the program was meant to "keep him out of jail." Being arrested is not an offence let alone proof of guilt, let alone a conviction. He (O'Neill) said nothing to that effect. Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. That doesn't make any sense. left. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. I applaud Tom O'Neil for his extreme efforts to find the truth. He didn't even see him during the trial.Reeve Whitson could of course be the spook extraordinaire.but once again, what ends up happening is that theories abound because there are many people that just refuse to accept the verdict as it came down and go looking to find reasons why it must have happened. Also Mon I think Whitson might be the truest character in O'Neill's book, but I think people are going to throw the baby out with the water on this one. Grim, in the comment I posted above, I mentioned Dennis Hurst. These papers are in the Eisenhower Presidential Library in Abeliene, Kansas. You got me Grim that is why I worded it the way I did, I don't remember were I saw it. ONeill interviewed Hatami who said that Bugliosi knew Reeve very well.Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve. Even Sharon Tate's father, Paul Tate, was a former Colonel in Military Intelligence and conducted his own investigation. O'Neill said he got his copy of the book from another journalist. I do not believe we will ever know the truthYou have the truth. I have to confess to a certain amusement at the personages you drag out to lend credence to your theories of the moment. According to Sanders, p. 197, Hurst came between 6:30 and 7:00. What ONeill said was that Whitsons name appeared four times, all during Hatamis testimony. When you have what Hatami testified and what Bugliosi testified regarding Hatamis testimony and gather these statements together under the aggregate phrase Hatamis testimony, then you can see that ONeill was not careless in how he represented his source. The police report mentioned above said that Dareff was at the house to deal in drugs.I bring this up because I believe the occupants in the house were given lethargy-inducing drugs to reduce their will to resist, perhaps LSD tainted with an animal tranquillizer. Hatami directed him to the caretaker's guest house on the other side of the pool, where Rudy Altobelli lived. Ruth Wilson recently opened up more about why she left The Affair and claimed that she didn't feel safe on set. He is mentioned several times in the papers and documents of Robert B. Anderson, who was Eisenhower's Deputy Secretary of Defense and then his Treasury Secretary. "I was only 19 at the time. It belonged to them. Reeve Whitson was a major player in the Laurel Canyon scene. %%EOF Neutralizing the Left The Lawyer Swap Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic Mind Control Where Does It All Go? Basically a long winded version of what I said, Chapman said it was there. "Thanks Grim,Another, more serious, error in HS, p. 49, is that it gives the license plate of Parent's car as ZLR 694. 2) in the early 1960s, Reeve Whitson was a Business Manager for a publishing /photography company in Paris that gave him a proper cover for his intelligence operations in Europe . This cannot be correct. He was a very dark player. Because the CIA wanted to make the hippie movement look bad in the public eye. According to Sanders, p. 197, Hurst delivered the bicycle between 6:30 and 7:00. [Irvin is talking about Reeve Whitson - Ed.] I can imagine him being scared shitless, looking out of a window, realizing something VERY bad was going down, and just shutting down. So I think, like Mon says, the flag was there and Krenwinkel either didn't notice it or was was lying. Some people have a fairly good memory recall; of the death troupe, Susan & Linda seemed to. Scares the shit out of me to think of it. Reeve Whitson of Ireland in action during his singles match on the final day of the Boys Home Internationals at Hankley Common Golf Club on August 6,. Yeah everything's okay, just some stuff I've gotta get thru. And did he not usually have permission for the few occasions he travelled out of state ? Imo, He racked up far more than enough of these activities to get sent back. "That was Sharon. Robertson was born in Manard, Muskogee County, Oklahoma, on August 3, 1920 [2] and attended Vanderbilt University before and after the war. Ha,ha Ms Katie.Maybe for you "life just gets more better and more clearer"but for me?.NEVERMINDlolMario George Nitrini 111-----The OJ Simpson Case. Grim saidSanders is right.The first Tate homicide report states exactly what Sanders says in your quote. I can honestly say, I'm very glad I never found out.And as Manson being a musician & singer? Those things, and wondering what really went on with William Garretson that night. But not on substance.because as far as I can see, there hasn't been any.I will say this; I have no idea if you met Charles Manson in January of 1969 on some construction site. He was very, very helpful. Read up on their historyI'm in full agreement with you on this. This contradicted Melchers testimony that after his May 1969 visit to Spahn Ranch he never saw Charlie again.I bring these last points up to show that ONeills book should be taken seriously for the information it contains from documents and from people close to the case. starviego saidI am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion.I agree. O'Neill's information on Whitson provides strong support for the proposition that military and intelligence agencies were involved in the Tate LaBianca murders, bringing the CIAs Phoenix program of assassination and torture of Vietnamese non-combatants home to America. The CIA are not nice guys. A:Right, there was ro reporterThe most immediate thing to notice is that Hatami only mentions Whitson once and even then, only because he's asked who he came to Bugliosi's office with. He mentioned him once. They weren't even in the same vicinity while True lived at the house next door.And personally, I wouldn't read O'Neill's book unless someone bought it for me and gave it to me. I have these numbers from ONeills book in reference to Hatami and Whitson: 22239, 144483, 14508, 14542, 14554. Knowing that his son was going to 10050 Cielo Drive the night before and because of reports that one of the bodies was unidentified (Steve Parent), his worried father called the police. As I have indicated on an earlier thread, according to the Marie Vigil letters, the man who left the eyeglasses was Robert Linkletter. Did you come down on your own?A: No, I have been called by his office to come downQ:Who was present when you were shown the photographs?A:Mr. Reeves WitsonQ:And Mr. Bugliosi?A:And Mr. BugliosiQ:And yourselfA:And myselfQ:And no one else?A:No one elsebeauders saidwhere have you been?Oh, just lurking for a while. Mario George Nitrini 111 saidPlease check-out the comments from this blog-post "leave-something-witchy" pertaining to comments by myself, Bobby, & Ms Katie regarding "The Construction Site"I did read that at the time. Either way it's impressive. He's scared to die now that he's in he's eighties, so I don't see him killing himself. Got a link? Grim said"Ask yourself what it logically means to have "witnesses that vouch for Whitson's presence in the scene." Melcher moved out in January '69 and the day after he moved out, Moorehouse was sent to prison for selling acid ~ he'd been found guilty on Dec 17th '68.The interesting thing about the Hearst times in "HS" is that both in terms of the police report and the court testimony, what is given in the book is inaccurate but not exactly uncheckable and not of earth shattering proportions. And this has been going on since the start of 2017. And Reeves Witson, a friend of Mr. Hatami, and Mr. Hatami, appeared in my office.Q:Do you recall the date?A:NoQ:Do you recall the time of day?A:I think it was around noon if I'm not mistakenand finally:KANAREK:All right, now, did you cause Mr, Hatami's conversation with you to be recorded?BUGLIOSI:NoQ:Did you cause a stenographic reporter to come in and take down any notes concerning your conversation with Mr. Hatami? She didn't go along with it, but she felt it might hurt them if she took it away. All the other times he is mentioned by Bugliosi.Going back to the point about Whitson suggesting the memory of Manson being the one that Sharon looked at that day back in March '69, Hatami has always been consistent ~ he has no recollection of ever seeing Manson in the flesh. Bugliosi had covered up for Terry Melcher during the trial. Bums don't earn a living with a paying job, they just move from camp to camp and sponge off folks.If Moorehouse lived at Cielo Drive when Melcher was there, it's news to me. Whitson could have gone into the house after Manson and his partner left, perhaps to perform necessary but mundane tasks such as removing bugs from the telephone and/or other places before the police arrived. He was a marginally employed and only marginally sane police groupie. Melcher told me he had no memory of it. I do not believe we will ever know the truth. Supposedly Debra Tate has the manuscript for the book, one of the claims in it was that Paul Caruso was representing Tom Harrigan and when Helder saw the new MDA drug on the to reports he wanted to get a sample analyzed but didn't know where to come by it so he asked Caruso if Hartigan would give him a sample and he did, it's awfully convenient how often Caruso's name pops up in the TLB saga.
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