I believe it will bring clarity to you. Let me know in the comments below your encounters with false prophets!https://orthodoxwiki.org/NestorianismI want to clarify I do not believe in praying in tongues anymore so I will make a video on thatI am also not charismatic anymore, I am soft (not hardcore) cessationist. The knowledge of speaking in tongues is something I acquired from my Apostolic family members, but it makes me wonder why I've never heard anyone in my southern baptist church speak it? I really like the sense of community I find in small bible studies although I no longer feel obligated to have perfect attendance; that too has been great. This is why I mentioned Rick Joyner. Mark, yes, some of the Sola Scriptura folk are Calvinist and/or Cessationists. Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight,O Lord, my strength and my Redeemer. Services, classes or other Im so sorry to hear about your experience. It will be in Bangkok mid January and it would be good if we could meet to discuss future placements in Thailand. Your story is more common than you know. Those ministries are considered heretical by many orthodox ChristiansI had NO clue. Enough is enough. I just cant believe this is God. We are Christians that worship on the seventh day of the week. 31 So Jesus said to those Jews who had believed in Him, If you abide in My word [hold fast to My teachings and live in accordance with them], you are truly My disciples. Weve all heard it.By beholding we become changed., 1 Cor 15:33 (ESV) Do not be deceived: Bad company ruins good morals. I mean we were God chasers after all, soooo benevolent we were in great pursuit of God.Nothing says,Ilove you Jesusl like paying big bucks for the T-shirt of our favorite superstar ministers new catch phrase and getting a bonus CD half off. Trying to be fed on sweets instead of meat. Sadly many live like Romans 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. The Lord's church dates back to 33 AD when the 12 disciples received the "Baptism of the Holy Spirit." Mostly. I think the devil is fooling the elect! I promised to get plugged in to a church with similar beliefs in my new town. I have heard false prophecies through the years. http://bible.com/1/rom.1.16.kjv. Then blaming everyone else when were sick and spirituality unhealthy. Nothing I could ever do What you described fits that movement to a tee Ellen white is a proven false prophet and I have no desire to follow a denomination who promotes them. You can use them to display text, links, images, HTML, or a combination of these. Its unexplainable as you cannot explain it. The teaching was something that appealed to me and I wanted to believe it with every fiber of my The next person can easily say your interpretation or my interpretation is "twisting the Word of God". Thank you for voicing it. I went to other churches that were Word based but there was no spiritual life. A church gathering should be about connecting with God and learning more about Him both through the Scriptures and through seeing and hearing what He is doing in the lives of others who are living a life of faith in Him. Shortly after, 2 more people left. As stated in previous posts, I believe that God speaks but if you have a word it better not go against His Word. Because you said I would describe the modern church as apostate and I have left the harlot church system in my rear view. I believe you said you are a pastor? Another great testimony. Why I left the Pentecostal Church.. After much soul searching & years of seeking God there are good reasons for my leaving the Assemblies of God church.. Why I left the Pentecostal Church First off, this church in general is overall a good church. Loved your post and I cannot thank you enough for posting it! everything was OK. I believe in Prophesying but not Propha-lying! Wilkersons students didnt have ministry degrees and were former drug abusers. This is an exciting time. I would add that not all Pentecostal preachers are illiterate of the things of the Lord. Discipleship is the keystone that is missing in our churches. The Harlot Church system is also helpful you can find the PDF online. One of the greatest resources that helped me through this difficult timehas been others sharing their stories and so I am compelled to share mine. Web1. Long story short, my life was turned completely around. I have seen lives ruined and people manipulate from that mess. It strays far from biblical teaching but yet it is wrapped in Christian language. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Being a Christian 34 years, 25+ years in Ministry I have seen, heard and experienced in the Church many things that make me shake my head and my blood boil. For the first time, a man has won the women's Tour of the Gila. God led me out of the movement and today I am free! You were right for leaving as Matthew 7:13,14 shows that few are finding the cramped road leading to everlasting life. Everything was done with excellence and professionalism. My family & I left a pretty dead baptist church about 6 months ago to attend a church that might be described as charismatic. More and more of what were called miracles just started to seem fake. . I dont know how yall can lump Rick Joyners ministry into all this. You learn to keep your opposing views to yourself. It was a warm fuzzy experience for the sake of I didnt leave a cult to be indoctrinated by another. Ive been humbled, but this thing has given me a new zeal not just to pursue Truth, but to pray for wisdom and discernment specifically, discernment of the spirits. Well Jo-Ann I fellowship with other like minded believers who have also left the corrupt system. Some of the supernatural stuff started to seem You have to test everything, use discernment and wisdom. To tell someone they dont have the Holy Ghost if they dont speak in tongues sets people up to speak in fake tongues or doubt their salvation. Honestly looking back now, I have been out of that movement for about 10 years and sadly, I was the only one in my group to clearly see the Neon sign. Apparently the Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones who would give woman prophetic words if they stripped down in his office. Its like, maybe they need to get the blinders off their own eyes before trying to point a finger at someone else. According to most Sola Scriptura folk, a good many of whom are Calvinist/Cessationists, if it isnt in the bible then it isnt right. I didnt know if I could possibly sit in another Amost there, about to happen moments at church it was starting to get under my skin. It looked like a safe place to go. (There seem to be a lot) it is sporadic. If of course, youre a Christian. WebC. Three years ago I went to a revival in a church and, for the first time ever queued to get in. Somehow, it all seemed so cheap and plastic now. Of course now I am a sinner.I failed because God wasnt enough. this one, that I would wind up sick and possibly even die because I was outside of God's will. I'm sure that my friends Please feel free to share your own story if you need too. It was an awkward departure. Hi, Im Lazarus Chetty, from Cape Town, South Africa. The Holy Spirit will not contradict the Word of God but enlighten the Scriptures to us. Take time to heal and be kind to yourself. We are sinful, arrogant and yes, full of pride. 2. Why I left the Pentecostal Church Patricia Figueroa 1.32K subscribers Subscribe 574 Share 40K views 4 years ago In this video, I talk about the reasons why i God has been so good and so gracious to meI dont deserve any of it! In that same chapter it warns about false prophets and that you will recognize them by their fruits (Matthew 7:15-20) and goes on to mention that these false prophets will be disappointed on the last day when Jesus turns to them and says I never knew you, get away from me you workers of lawlessness (Matthew 7:21-23). If staying connected meant promising to live according to the group's Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote to the Church of Corinth to correct several major errors including the abuse of the Gifts of the Spirit. Why isnt being a patient sitter illegal yet? Hands raised utterly disconnected from God. John etc. God why was I deceived? Otherwise you are judging ALL and condemning ALL in the Pentecostal Movement. Once we were all encouraged to speak in tongues and shout out our cities name as claimed territory In the name of Jesus. I find myself at odds with any church or denomination that places external manifestation above the Word of God. I speak from experience. The fact that the Word of God is full of external manifestation as evidence of Gods power should not distract us. Most of these people didnt even know the word much less if God was speaking. I spent months alone, laying on the floor, broken, fasting, praying, weeping, calling out to God. So the problem is not a movement but people who are either not saved, or they are deceived or sin abounds letting junk in. This was a result of the fulfillment of the promise Jesus gave to Hope to have your readership. God bless! I dont know why but it instantly conjured up the sufferings of the saints who endure far far worse things yet do not deny their Christ and I was stopped short. To encourage each other and pray for each other. For any and all who have left the United Pentecostal Church. Contrary to what some people believe, our church is not a cult! I searched out many testimonies when I was coming out for comfort and help. That, in turn, just re-enforced the idea that I was doing something wrong. One woman who claimed to be an evangelist was leading those meetings, and I remember her stopping, and with an evil laugh said Oh Lord, please keep it clean as if the Holy Spirit would ever make people do something unclean! When people put more stock in their dreams/visions and feelings and they choose to elevate it above your word they are in delusion. I learned more about Israel and the feasts if God in Old Testament times in a few months listening to Perrys teachings than I ever have in my local non-denominational church. This thus saith the Lord stuff has hurt a lot of people. Pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you Jesus said. I spent hours in study in those days which laid a biblical foundation before I went to Bible College. If you're not blessed, not protected, or not Not sure whats so bad about 7-M. One last thought, Colossians 3:2 Think of the things of heaven, not the things of earth.Therein for me is the crux I want to fill my thoughts ie my life with Godly thoughts, put on my new nature and be renewed as iI learn to know my Creator and become like Him. If you ever want to chat, let me know and will be glad to listen. I know a Reformed Pastor who claimed Jesus was coming on a certain date and Jesus never came. If you call out a minister on their poor or even criminal behavior and present facts to back up your claim they either ignore you all together or get mad as a hornet. xx. They cooperated with other churches to organize big events in This only means something to people old enough to remember the time before digital cameras, when you took a roll of film and had to have it developed into photographs. The false teaching that has come into the Pentecostal camp did not originate with the Pentecostal movement. I began seeing some very strange disturbing manifestations during our services where people were flopping all over each other, going into trances, acting like they were giving birth, making animal noises, and on occasion even rolling out of their clothes. If you say u belong to Christ and i belong to christ it means we are connected nomatter where u live, which church you belong to. Yeah, I find that statement overused and an oversimplification of the real issues. Turned away from the Torah(instructions), laws and commandments and have become pagan with all It's a historic day. I learned to speak with confidence and passion in areas where I experienced up until that point would be nothing compared to what was to come and then I wouldn't have people in church, most of the staff and a significant percentage of the congregation left & were replaced by others. I looked to those who were further along My question; has anyone experienced the leadership or the prayer team breathing odd, like an inhale swoop? They are irrefutable to the believer. This is extremely important for young children. also wondered about "prophetic words" that seemed to contradict eachother and even contradict the For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. the church. My experience is this; dreams can be easily influenced by what we already want/dont want. Most definately. God help us and anoint us with His Holy Spirit to make a difference for the Kingdom and in this world. I am wondering about some of this relating to my own journey, and Im just wondering, did you stop attending church of any kind? That said, does that mean God does not speak to us today? No more Sunday church services, its been liberating in some ways once I shook the guilt off. So were many others. It would resonate w/ a lot of people trapped in that confusion. 9. For me the best way to find out what we should do or where we must go, is to ask our Father. I started asking questions like why are we so formal with eachother since Jesus calls us his family and not spiritual family. John MacArthur is a committed Calvinist who vehemently holds to the cessationist view. I believe its straight forward. Oh yes, we were always ALMOST THERE, wherever there was. That is not what God meant at all about abundance. I still pray but Ive come to understand we must hold fast what is good and the greatest testimony is simply obeying His word regardless of the goosebumps. I loved my friends but my heart was far from God. Judgement and wrath can be expected to anyone who teaches another gospel. Sorry if I took anything you said out of context. The sad fact is so many within our churches today often love these hyper-emotional camps, such as; Bethel, IHOP, Christine Caine (from Propel) Graham Cooke, Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Peter Wagner and all the so called self proclaimed prophets and apostles, etc. Secondly, the power of God, is not anything that makes us look like Herod and great men of faith. The pressure As Michael has stated on this blog (and I paraphrase), the church is full of people. I love Justin peters and John MacArthur It really helped me. it will disturb you and send you sounding the alarm. I would describe the modern church as apostate and I have left the harlot church system in my rear view. I loved church fellowship and dressing up for church. Going to church every sunday, praise and worship, listen to a scripture and go home again. The Assemblies of God were founded in Hot Springs, Arkansas in April, 1914. Pentecost is biblical and the things practised in charasmatic/pentecostal churches are find in the bible. That's quite baffling to me because they appear to be the least likely to put limitations on God and be more accepting of the spiritual gifts that one possesses. Congratulations on escaping the apostasy. Im not going to spill all of the details on the comment section, but I know exactly how you felt. Instead of becoming a super-Christian, I love Torah , love Sabbath worship and only He is Glorified. Keep going, God is real, Christ is real, the gifts of the Holy Spirit are real and 100% authentic Gods glory is real and seen in the true work of the Spirit. So you could say I became a little pentecostal. The majority of the congregation could just "show up" and enjoy. I prayed for thattruly.thank God. Its just that the leaders of Vineyard Anaheim believe that God is guiding them to leave the denomination their church helped start. If you didn't feel anything, someone would be Go to YouTube and listen, you will be amazed, please, do this for your own benefit. We need to test all teachings by the Word of God regardless of the source, We must not go by feeling or impression but by thus saith the Lord. Hi Dave, I found when I left the traditional church, i did not immediately join another church. When i saw Mr Johnson breathing like that after being prayed over earlier this week and the young man did the same thing I immediately saw a pattern. I hope this encourages anyone that has been disillusioned by the Pentecostal Churches of today and that you will not lose your faith but seek out a place of believers where you are more comfortable and once again enjoy the fellowship of the Spirit of Truth. Titus 1:9 (ESV) He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound[fn] doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. The erroneous Seven Mountain Mandate and New Apostolic Reformation doctrines have flooded in. It sounds so Godly no one has stopped to examine weather it linesup with doctrine. Like many others, I joined because I was looking for something -- I wanted to be in a church that So after I quit a good job where I had it all going for me, my life started to fall apart. Praise God He continue to lead and guide us by His Spirit, just as He promised . about leaving again. This book tackles such questions as - Is experience a valid test of truth? When we have visitors from other churches, thats where I notice a lot of what you talk about. Afterwards, I sat in the cafe. So, He took my support structure away, I join prayer groups from time to time, but mostly I am on a solitary path. It sounds good but not God is the way I would describe it. Sooo sad for you that you were trapped for soooo LONG!!! I also am blogging about it. Maybe strong relationships only happened in an environment of strong control. You do not have the authority to do so. In the end, it is always the misinterpretation of the Bible. In Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur calls for biblical evaluation and analyzes the doctrinal differences between charismatics and non-charismatics in the light of Scripture. How vain have we become to think the God who is holy, righteous, pure in every way looks to give us his Presence or another word to puff us up! I hadnt bothered too much until it affected me. Im pleading for the cause of Christ that if anyone that reads this is tangled up with some of these things please run far from them. He is aware of these things and says he doesnt agree with themthat he just preaches the gospel. "revivals" on the west coast, special services on the east coast, visited "hot spots" in the midwest I had a lot to think about and I knew I absolutely had to get back to God. My destination is Heaven or bust! And let me say that some of those doing the condemning of Pentecostals and Charismatics are in false teaching themselves. I am reading all everybody has to say and I have to say this: the church is still the bride of Christ and even though the wedding dress might be torn and dirty, the hair a mess and the jewellery dull, we are the bride irrespective of where and how we are worshipping. Im fully awake. All my love in Christ to this Sister in Christ. While Ive had personal, subjective experiences that convince me that Christianity is true, there are compelling reasons to believe that its objectively true.When I first began to investigate the claims of Christianity, I compared it to some of the most As a Minister, it infuriates me that Pastors do not use discernment and that some allow things that are not of God in the Church. missing it so I could "fix" whatever it was and live in His blessing again. I questioned why we did certain things during mass but i was usually given an answer that didnt relate back to the bible. He is my all in all! so much back there wasn't God at all. I have found my WAY IN YESHUA I am Hebrew (crossed over). This is my story. One thing I have observed, is that the truly godly ministers are not proud and self-seeking but humble before God, honest, and fearlessly devoted to Him and His truth, and their joy and desire is to obey Him, introduce others to Him, and give all the glory to Him . They are sweet young families in this little church, precious young ones who love Jesus. I enjoyed your story and am happy to see you attending a small group rather than giving up on it all together. If it wasnt for the love of God and commitment to Christ I would have stopped Church altogether. They belonged to eachother for the mere fact that they follow christ nothing else just that. Of course, if you are illiterate or not a great reader life is a tad more difficult! Why I Left The Pentecostal Movement: Exposing Corruption Within The Pentecostal Movement Kindle Edition by Von Hanshaw (Editor) Format: Kindle Edition 7 ratings Kindle $0.00 Read with Kindle Unlimited to also enjoy access to over 1 million more titles $2.99 to buy It was then that I truly knew God was real to me. But the real proof would have been a real miracle where someone re-gained their site or a deformed limb was restored. I wanted to experience the supernatural aspects that the charismatic / Pentecostal movement was known Maybe No smoke and mirrors. It is not the baby and bath water, what is a baby doing in the filthy water in the first place. What a great article. I began to wonder if the things I had loved about my previous church were inextricably connected to the things that I We made sacrifices for the good of the church. just "speaking in faith." I, too, have been delivered out of charismania, where almost every week wed hear how revival was about to break out across America; where there would be times the preacher would say You wont need your Bible tonight!; where people would literally fall on each other; where Id hear contradictory prophecies; where wed read ourselves into Old Covenant Israel; where any critical examination was met with touch not the Lords anointed; and where everything depended on how you feel. As my brother Michael referenced, 1 Thess. Heres an interesting thought or rather it was interesting to me: two of the most powerful revivals in history took place amongst Calvinistic settings: the Welsh Revival 1904-1905 and Hebrides Revival 1949-1952. He has never spoken in tongues, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God is working in him and through him. The reasoning was that if . Thank you for your courageous story. It was scary making the decision to leave but leaving and going back to my Bible church was like going from desert to oasis. I have had several dreams believing they were from God but after my chaotic experience I have questioned whether they were or not. False prophecy is rampant in these circles. I too couldve written most of this sisters blog. WebI am an ex-member who walked away about 3 years ago, after four years of membership in the United Pentecostal Church International (UPCI). We should actually share deep stuff adn walk this road together but the system does not allow us to grow closer to Eachother. 2:11 is talking about. that I was gone. (Acts 1:26-2:1) C. Pentecostalism believes that this power is received today because of I dont know where we will end up on Sunday mornings, but we will attend with a new level of discernment, awareness, and worship. It leads to a new moral code at odds with the worlds, and it will not be acceptable to that same world that prefers darkness rather than light; it is incomprehensible to it. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. Somenot all. Sorry for your bad Church experiences you and your family have encountered. There were no major control issues here. Acts 17:10-12 NKJV In this video, I talk about the reasons why i left the conservative Pentecostal movement. But, I want to be open to things that will challenge me and stretch my faith. Im very surprised by the views. They do as the bible says to feed the flock not scatter bring them in. Phil 1:5-6NKJV huge revolving door. I watched Mr Johnson do this on a you tube sermon in my research and it was something a young prayer team guy did when praying over me. In Acts the believers were connected to eachother. It was a process to leave my former church and begin attending the new church regularly. I had done everything I knew how to The Bible teaches no such thing. The hairstylist gave a bad experience therefore ALL hairstylist are bad. The Christian life is not about programs, it is about loving God and loving others (one another, neighbours, enemies) because we love Him and His love flows through us for others . View all posts by puresola. Many in the congregation go to and from Bethel. Acts 20:29-32 KJV I feel fortunate that every teaching from the pulpit, and Sabbath school, was straight from the bible and cross referencing scriptures according to the lesson we were studying. Music was too loud (again) but I went up to re-commit to Christ out of a challenge. All these things can make you discouraged and make you want to quit Church altogether, especially if it happens to you personally. Thats why it is so important to share our stories. More and more the speaking in tongues seemed fake. These men prophesy lies and the people imagine vain things. The Lord is calling his children out from the delusion and false teaching of the pentecostal movement, one by one.
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