FUHRMAN: Stand around the dark parking lot of a baseball diamond drinking beer at 3:30 in the morning. - On apprehending suspects, 'What if I've just been raped by two buck n******, and a female shows up?' HART MCKINNY: It's been an emotional journey. People there don't want Mexicans in their town. I was extremely nervous. Fuhrman, a key witness in the O.J. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This material is collateral. I would never have sold the tapes. PHILLIPS: So she is telling her story, her truth and for the first time excerpts from the Fuhrman tapes you've never heard, vulgar, sexist. People there don't want Mexicans in their town. But in his 1997 book, murder in Brentwood, Fuhrman apologized, writing, in my heart I always knew it was wrong, even if I said them only to create a fictional story. You have to be able to shoot people, beat people beyond recognition and go home and hug your little kids. PHILLIPS: And then you lost on appeal. HART MCKINNY: No. 'Four suspects ran into a 2nd story in a apartment projects - apartment. The judge barred the defense from submitting to jurors any statements Fuhrman made in nine years of taped interviews with a North Carolina screenwriter in which he boasted about planting. He found crucial evidence against O.J. HART MCKINNY: So they would hold these late night meetings and figure out how they were going to harass other male officers that were being nice to female officers. PHILLIPS: But before the recordings there was a relationship. Many people also know about a key piece of evidence introduced by the defensetaped interviews in which one of the investigating officers, Los Angeles Police Department detective Mark Fuhrman, used racial slurs. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could you come forward, please. FUHRMAN: You got to be a border line socio path, you got to be violent. HART MCKINNY: Approximately 42. "[13], The Los Angeles Police Department conducted an investigation to determine the validity of Fuhrman's claims on the tapes. Plainly a comprehensive view of what the tapes do portray remains elusive until Judge Ito decides which tapes and transcripts are admissible . PHILLIPS: And whatever happened to McKinny's screen play? I thought I really need to step up my game here. PHILLIPS: There was a wealth of forensic evidence from drops of blood to shoe prints to a bloody glove. I mean that's bullshit.' They didn't want to be detectives but now they see the writing on the wall. FUHRMAN: If I go down they lose the case. BERNARD PARKS, DEPUTY CHIEF LAPD: I made a point to always take a moment to look at somebody's background and not give them an opportunity to put the department in a bad light. Fuhrman Tapes Describe Beating Spree 'Tortured' Shooting Suspects, Lied HART MCKINNY: No. It's despicable, the fact that he can think about that and talk like that makes me think it's happening and so I have to find a way to reflect that. How did we even let him stay on the job? The Fuhrman Tapes Came From An Anonymous Call - Bustle PHILLIPS: Are you glad that Laura recorded Mark Fuhrman? HART MCKINNY: I just froze and said yes and then we left town, immediately, because I had no idea what to do. HART MCKINNY: I could tell there was a story - I didn't t know what the story was that I was - to deal with him. He had been the first to arrive at Simpson's home the night of the murders because he was familiar with the property, having been there in 1985 while responding to a report of domestic abuse made by Nicole against her then husband. HART MCKINNY: Good afternoon Mr. Cochran. Ito steps aside on Fuhrman tapes issue -Full Story-Goldman family blasts Simpson defense -Full Story- Rappers like NWA made clear, black neighborhoods were ready to blow. Was completing this book therapeutic for you after all these decades? He is very capable of protecting himself. The thought of taking someone's life and being happy that it wasn't you and finding a way to go great job, that was a hell of an evening, it's just overwhelming, the really is, the idea of a kill party. Simpson was found not guilty? THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. PHILLIPS: Coming up, tribunals and kill parties. And when it came to his use of the n-word he told Sawyer; 'It shouldn't be used. And, if I go down, they lose the case. You've got 200 n****** that are trying to take you prisoner.' - Describing suspect, 'He was a n*****. Really is extraordinary, isn't it?' Take one in the basement and just beat the dog shit out of him." Numerous bones in each one of them. Moment commuter blasts eco-zealots, Royal superfans camping on The Mall ahead of King's Coronation, Women's rights activists and pro-trans campaigners separated, Cambridge students party in the park during annual celebrations, Russian freight train derails and bursts into flames after explosion, Historic chairs to be reused by the King for the coronation service, Hundreds of Household Division members rehearse for coronation, Braverman: People crossing Channel are 'at odds with British values', 'You motherf***ers don't understand': Bam Margera details 'turmoil', Ukraine drone strike hits major fuel depot in port Sevastopol. I said I mean you guys actually go to the park after work and just drink beer and then great women? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 42 times? '"No problem, not even any marks, Dana." The jury ultimately found Simpson not guilty, and on July 5, 1996 Fuhrman was charged with perjury for lying about his use of racial slurs on the stand. Frederico usually carousing superfluously or upchuck octagonally when unfenced Baily reforests sinistrally and dreadfully. Fuhrman was also recorded stating that women who were good leaders "are either so ugly or they're a lesbian or they're so dyke-ish that they are not women anymore. [23:00:25] KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN SPECIAL REPORT: The detective and the tapes. HART MCKINNY: Yes. He should be shot. ANNOUNCER: The following is a CNN special report. PHILLIPS: So he made you get out at the scene. It was a misplaced effort and I did it the wrong way. That's all I can do.'. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The whole night he threatened me and he say I'll take you and any other females you want to bring up to the academy and I'll choke you all out in a minute, because you're not even strong. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Flames are jumping about 25 feet in the air -- PHILLIPS: A city torture by a history of racial rage. PHILLIPS: What's it like to be back here? HART MCKINNY: He was trying to articulate the depth of his soul. When I left, Dana goes, "No blood Mark." What Did The Mark Fuhrman Tapes Say? They Were Crucial To The - Romper After O.J. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We in the jury and involve in title action find the defendant Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder and violation of penal code. "[6][7], The tapes, as well as Fuhrman himself, became central to the 1995 O. J. Simpson murder trial. [23:05:00] HART MCKINNY: Judge who was an acquaintance of mine in L.A. PHILLIPS: Did that surprise you? They called themselves MAW -- men against women. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. You're never going to find. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. He even compared Fuhrman's actions to those of Hitler at one point in his speech. I feel that often when I'm working. Mark Fuhrman's racist tapes: The full transcript of key OJ Simpson detective saying N-word 41 TIMES and detailing racially-motivated violence involving members of LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman. . Just body shots. PHILLIPS: So it just empowered you. The defense proffers include 41 examples of Fuhrman using the particular racial epithet in question and 18 examples of misconduct argued to be relevant on the issue of Fuhrman's credibility and willingness to fabricate. Aug. 25, 1995 . FUHRMAN: The worst male officer has that adrenalin, that ability to attack -- not the women don't, but they're very uncomfortable with it. HART MCKINNY: No one, talking about me, should be profiting from this tragedy that people have to live with every day of their life. 'They had pictures on the walls, there was blood all the way to the ceiling with finger marks like they were trying to crawl out of the room.'. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this your verdict, so say you one, so say you all? By all accounts Fuhrman was to be THE STAR witness for the prosecution against O.J. - On LAPD coworker who took up fencing, 'I used to go to work and practice movements. FUHRMAN TAPES The court has read and considered the Defense Offer Of Proof Re: "Fuhrman Tapes", the amendments to the original offer of proof, the responses filed by the prosecution, listened to the redacted audio tapes, read and considered the multiple transcripts of the redacted audio tapes, and heard the argument of counsel. 03:54 BST 30 Mar 2016 We gave all the females names, like these really ugly ones called critter, and this other one we call her, uh Hench Monkey like in the Wizard of Oz. In argument in opposition to the admission of these incidents of alleged misconduct, the prosecution has challenged the sufficiency of the defense showing on this issue. The defense proffer essentially argues that because Fuhrman allegedly suppressed information given to him by Rosa Lopez that was arguably favorable to the defendant, it can be assumed that he would plant the glove. You know they're caught between dimensions. PHILLIPS: She told Fuhrman she was writing about a woman cop. PHILLIPS: Coming up O.J. HART MCKINNY: No, I didn't even know what a split tail was. HART MCKINNY: I think those tape spoke volumes. Mark Fuhrman told you he personally he felt trapped. He didn't get out. And I was wrong. But I don't think he got carried away. PHILLIPS: Who had helped them in some way or not reported something in a report that those officers felt they should have or had done something nice to them, had backed them up. HART MCKINNY: No. We have to be willing to be vulnerable. In the end no proof could be found that 17 of the incidents ever even occurred, and investigations into the other 12 did not find any concrete proof of misconduct. I used to practice my kicks.' FUHRMAN: My ass is on the line, because if the media gets a hold of this, although we can say - well, we've been in negotiations for years, months whatever. . PHILLIPS: In 1983 she was new to the force and ready to protect and serve in west L.A. at roll call, rookie officers like Morris sat up front. Nothing is confidential and they would subpoena you and your tapes and your life would change forever. Then in 1991 there was this, a grainy video of four white cops beating Rodney King. Judge Ito's first ruling on the Fuhrman tapes . She could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. So then Mark Fuhrman comes up for a promotion and you look at him in the eye and say? August 15, 1995 . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything out of a nigger's mouth for the first five or six sentences is a lie. 'He says you might as well make it pay off, if you don't make it pay off, all you're doing is going through all this heartache for nothing. It was a bombshell! It is pretty tough, huh?' No, because he liked to talk about his thoughts and his feelings. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Simpson you are charge with the crime of murder. 'Crime Story' Addresses Another Fuhrman Allegation - Bustle PHILLIPS: By the late '80s allegations of excessive use of force had escalated racial tensions. He didn't belong. Trial Transcripts UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The court finds the defendant guilty based on his plea of no contest. The defense contends the tapes portray Fuhrman as a liar - he testified earlier in the trial that he hadn't used the racial slur in the last decade - and show he is capable of planting evidence against Simpson. They're full of white guys that wear cowboy boots.' : Fuhrman Tapes Revealed. Two of my. The underlying assumption requires a leap in both law and logic that is too broad to be made based upon the evidence before the jury. . PHILLIPS: What was your reaction to the verdict when O.J. "Testimony of documentary film producer Laura Hart McKinney in the OJ Simpson Trial", "Excerpts from the Ruling on the Fuhrman Tapes", "Detective's Words Return To Haunt Him Fuhrman Tapes made Public As Judge Ponders Admissibility", "Fuhrman Led 'Klan' vs. PHILLIPS: Still a mystery? PHILLIPS: Next Fuhrman worries more about the movie than the murder. HART MCKINNY: Can I use all those? PHILLIPS: And it was a trial that from the start was clearly about race, in a city with a deep history of racial turmoil. Transcripts Of The Fuhrman Tapes Excerpts Show Why They Were - Bustle HART MCKINNY: I was. HART MCKINNY: Yes. The Fuhrman Tapes and the L.A.P.D. Portions of the tapes were admitted into evidence during the 1995 O. J. Simpson murder trial. I'm sorry for that. HART MCKINNY: What, the 77th lie detector test? - On construction of a new police stations, By . PHILLIPS: The taping began when their romantic relationship ended. PHILLIPS: Men against women wasn't only about denigrating females, Fuhrman also told screen writer Laura Hart McKinny that MAW held what they called kill parties. PHILLIPS: She is Laura Hart McKinny, the writer who recorded conversations with Mark Fuhrman. We have no n****** where I grew up.' HART MCKINNY: We had a romance. Read what the NY Times had to say about this site back in 1995: Discussion of the O. J. Simpson Murder Trial Is On-Line as Well as on the Air -- N.Y. Times, February 14, 1995. I said why would you say that? I remember you got a lot of death threats. Coming so quickly on the heels of the 1992 LA riots, the Fuhrman tapes forced the public to reckon with the specter of racism and police brutality all over again. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. SIMPSON, FOOTBALL LEGEND: Absolutely 100 percent not guilty. ', In his final recording, Fuhrman talks about the Simpson case and having discovered the glove, telling McKinny; 'I'm the key witness in the biggest case of the century. FUHRMAN: I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege. PHILLIPS: A split-tail for a partner. Simpson trial. Fuhrman retired from the LAPD soon after the tapes emerged, and after accepting his plea on perjury charges sat down for his first interview with Diane Sawyer, who brought up everything from his racist comments to his collection of Nazi World War II memorabilia. PHILLIPS: So you knew he would put the department in a bad light? Obviously he is lying the first two times. - On why he takes martial arts classes, 'Don't they think they are physically capable? The transcript and audio of that portion of the tapes was never released. There has got to be a reason why he is going to tell you the truth.' N******. This is a conversation we're . Fuhrman says on the tapes: "I had 66 allegations of brutality.. under cover of authority, assault and battery under cover of authority. Fuhrman Tapes Detail Police 'Torture' 'We Basically Tortured Them All n******, n***** training officers, n*****( with three years on the job. PHILLIPS: What if somebody had come towards you? PHILLIPS: And then you thought? In the transcript shared with the Los Angeles Times, Fuhrman said he was the primary suspect in an 18-month Internal Affairs investigation that resulted from the 1978 incident, but that he escaped . Judge Ito's final decision on the Fuhrman tapes . See who they are.' More from the infamous tapes you've never heard. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are tragically into the third day of this major riot-- PHILLIPS: Los Angeles. It is therefore relevant and admissible as impeachment. Who suggested you destroy the tapes? FUHRMAN: This is publicly humiliating a female officer in front of a bunch of male officers. The whole world would watch him implode. When you heard those tape recordings for the first time, what did you think? Motions and Court Orders UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They show the tapes will show he was a racist capable of planting a bloody glove. We were privy to all of his past investigations and a stress claim that he filed where he talked about how he hated blacks and Hispanics, and women. PHILLIPS: And revealing a secret sexist society inside the LAPD, when we come back on the beat with Mark Fuhrman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case? He also told Sawyer that he does not think he had anything to do With Simpson being cleared of all charges in the case. HART MCKINNY: He did. Simpson murder trial. We'd love to investigate just some good 'ol boy beating up a n***** in a bar."' . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How do you arrest a violent suspect? - On working Mardi Gras, 'There is going to be a massacre in the future and they know that. They're not trustworthy. That person has never been revealed to me. The defense may present McKinny's testimony as follows: b. You go to Pacoima, you got bikers and n******.' It fails to support the admissibility of these incidents of alleged misconduct as prior bad acts or evidence of custom and habit. Read Best of the Sidebars in the OJ Simpson Trial. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To sell. The LAPD announced that Fuhrman exaggerated many of the acts of racially motivated brutality described on the recordings. Another time he is complaining about members of the force no longer being allowed to use certain methods of force on suspects. Trial Transcripts PHILLIPS: Why? - Speaking against women on the force, 'No, we have to eliminate a choke hold because a bunch of n****** down in the south end of L.A. said this is bad.' McKinny, who was a professor at the North Carolina School of the Arts in its filmmaking department, was resistant to sharing the tapes and transcripts from her interviews with Fuhrman according to . Witnesses who were members of the police force were listed on a spousal conflict form and Captain York was required to review the list and sign off on the fact that she did not have a relationship with any members of the LAPD who would appear at trial. The profanity-laden recordings took place over a period of almost 10 years, from 1985 to 1994. FUHRMAN: Yes, the 77th leave that old station man, it's got the smell of niggers that have been beaten and killed in there for years. 'Did you ever try to find a bruise on a n*****. It's relevant, germane, material. "You're either my partner all the way, or get the f--- out of this . (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:23:005] PHILLIPS: By day a ball field, by night an imaginary courtroom. Fuhrman Tapes: Buddies and I Tortured Suspects HART MCKINNY: He asked if in that story I had research tapes and if I had taped Mark Fuhrman. Four suspects ran into a second-story. Somebody's got to make the decision. That fact almost derailed the entire Simpson case for both sides and came dangerously close to causing a mistrial. That the other guys wouldn't talk with him. And I will deny the subpoena. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fire and the blaze were held off by rioters. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. It was revealed around this time that she had completed her screenplay based on her interviews with Fuhrman, for a film she had decided to call Men Against Women. That way, said Cochran, Ito could . "No problem, not even any marks, Dana." UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wouldn't get off the car so I'd have to approach the scene by myself. - On making decisions at crime scenes, 'I mean narcotics isn't full of n****** and Mexicans. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The thought of the party takes your breath away. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:53:33] PHILLIPS: It was 1994. [1][2][3], Although the tapes became notorious for their racial slurs, the bulk of the tapes involved Fuhrman discussing an organized group of male LAPD officers known as MAW, or Men Against Women, who reportedly engaged in sexual harassment, intimidation, discrimination and criminal activity against female LAPD police officers, often endangering the female officers' lives. He also discovered blood on the Bronco outside Simpson's home the night of the murder. Jury & Witness Lists PHILLIPS: Why? I don't know if you've heard that before, but what's your reaction to that? PHILLIPS: Morris says she was so scared she didn't finish her shift that night. FUHRMAN: You've got to be able to shoot people, beat people beyond recognition and go home and hug your little kids. Harrington also publicly responded to Fuhrman's views that female police officers are unfit for police work because of their biological sex. I was an excuse. That request was later withdrawn by the prosecution, and Judge Ito decided to stay on the case after he asked another judge to make a ruling on whether or not he believed his wife was now a relevant witness given statements made by Fuhrman in the tapes. And that is the way it is in the car. THE O.J. SIMPSON MURDER TRIAL - Los Angeles Times We grabbed a girl that lived there, one of their girlfriends. That brief recording heard by the jury was taken from 13 hours of interviews between Fuhrman and screenwriter Laura McKinny recorded between 1985 and 1994, with the last tape being made a month after Simpson was charged in his wife's murder.
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