Camarillo, California Nov 6, 2009 #2 With tractor shut off, reach in under the PTO guard and grab the end of the shaft that slides onto the PTO splines. }, When I get that gear off and finally get the shaft out so I can get at the seal I think I'll use a speedi-sleeve with 2 new style SKF seals. The blades continue to turn because of their weight. Next, look over the linkage to the rear gearbox. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Welcome. Along the way, youll even notice a few tips about prevention and maintenance. take more time to be effective. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. I have a question about the seal bore. I had to replace 2 on my batwing last year. Do I take the gear off so the shaft comes out the front? It isn't that old that their mechanics can't figure it out or tell you how to do it. The manual makes it sound rather easy. So, if you have a hard time disengaging a stuck PTO shaft, you can find the methods mentioned above to disengage the PTO shaft handy. Tip for How to Engage PTO on Kubota Tractor Properly: Do not attempt repair without a service manual for your specific tractor. When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. Keep at it. I think autozone still rented them . You might need to try disconnecting the outside rod and using vise grips to exercise the lever. is used out (typically balls or pins) or cause it/them to disconnect. Thanks, that makes sense. Then you can use a punch or such to drive the seal out towards the rear also. Our low prices and . In her free time, she enjoys makeup, cooking, and being an aspiring comedian. You should feel a pin sticking out --- press the pin in while pulling on the shaft at the same time. works well if properly mixed. . The seal sits inside that. Most of the time, I hook left arm, right arm, pto shaft then top link. I can only imagine the bill at a dealership. Contact us online today or call us at 281-516-5709 for a quote. Will post sucess or failure tomorrow. If it doesn't budge, pour more oil onto it. If you have any further questions or concerns beyond what this article covers, check out Bobby Fords Kubota tractor repair. 2023 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. However, the turning continues when the engine speed dips below 1000 RPM. "interactionStatistic": { Now you can get a long pry bar or even two in Afterward, you should flip to theONposition the PTO switch. Dave As Charlie said, the big gear has to come off then the shaft will slide out rearword. My next effort will be to heat it with my TIG torch, see if red hot does the trick. Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? But if the shaft doesnt budge, you need to sacrifice the coupler, yet you should do it as a last resort. Depress this button or pin with your thumb. We carry a large selection of Kubota - PTO and Related Parts - PTO Parts - Tractor Parts. "height": 57 More than one way to accomplish this . It's going to be tuff to get that gear off but I have done it. Most likely, there is a poor adjustment on the PTO control valve that permits it to only partially engage or float. If not something has let it go to far on the shaft. My next effort will be to heat it with my TIG torch, see if red hot does the trick. To begin, make sure you can extend and contract the equipment's PTO shaft freely. In this blog post, well show you how to remove a PTO shaft Tractors with power take-off (PTO) driveshafts pull all types of PTO shaft-driven implements. All I wanted to accomplish was to replace a leaking shaft seal. The brake plate tab and PTO clutch holder suffer wear. Penetrating oil may take some time to show its effect on the rusting PTO shaft. Wipe your forehead with your sleeve, yell at the dog, promise a kick in the pills to the unfortunate inventor of this contraption then go get a drink of water. I think the metal piece you are referring to on the outside is the housing for the seal and doesn't come off. Just maybe I was meant to go down this road of taking the gear off because its seized on, and it shouldn't be. If you see your question here on our list, then well give you some troubleshooting options as well as some likely successful tips in the following section of this article. Additionally, the tractors male driveshaft comes with splines that readily engage with the implements female driveshaft. My guess is your PTO shaft is a tad too long. Was thinking pull the shaft out first then figure out how to get the shaft seal out. Usually once you loosen the pin, you will be able to hold it down with just your thumb as you slide it apart. Lining up the grooves is easier if you turn the PTO shaft on the tractor (should be able to do this with . You need to rotate gear so they line and then pull the gear carefully off the shaft. So, I ended up sliding the drive shaft apart to allow removal of the mower deck. Youll learn about some necessary identification steps to take and even where to go when service is required. Refrain from disengaging the PTO shaft from a moving tractor, for it may cause severe injury or even death. There are a couple different collar release methods and would suggest you google pto driveshaft or youtube to find what matches your shaft. After the pin is back into the slot, you may have to look into removing the pin in order to get it off the shaft. There is a online manuals that you can get to see a exploded view of that machine. Home > Machinery > Agricultural Machineries > Tractors. Shaft comes out towards rear of the tractor, Okay! Hopefully, it should be move without putting a lot of strain The seal sits inside that. He is in AB Canada, While I am from Dayton Ohio. Do not attempt to wrestle the shaft from the That linkage may be bent and could certainly be prohibiting the clutch from engaging. When I get that gear off and finally get the shaft out so I can get at the seal I think I'll use a speedi-sleeve with 2 new style SKF seals. The BX Kubota is really tight area to access easily and can be very frustrating when either connecting or disconnecting the drive shaft on the pto. I bought a new bolt like the one that holds the gear on. However, its brake is still engaged. problems since they wont be receiving any power it effectively transmits Help need to remove PTO out of Kubota L245DT - TractorByNet Kubota Tractor PTO Problems - How to Engage PTO - Bobby Ford Tractor Then the pto shaft comes out the back. The combo of light taps and heat will make the stubborn PTO shaft give in. Then work on disconnecting it. Finally, attempt to turn the PTO shaft manually. tractors PTO spindle with the usual steps. Frustrating!!! Dont get it red hot ,just heat . Probably the key is partly sheared inside. Adam is our General Manager. It will probably need to come out in pieces. "@context":"https://schema.org", When I went to take my bush hog off the tractor (M5400) I could not get the mower shaft to disengage from the PTO. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. I used that pilot hole to center my 3 jaw puller. . Thanks!! This is not that complicated to do; so, you will get by with this problem if you are used to tinkering. You can use a mixture of diesel and ATF with a 50:50 ratio. Lubes can be particularly effective for stuck tractor PTO Many have broken that gear trying to get it off. }. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. I have a heavy duty puller, a good grip on the gear, a 4' extension on the ratchet to turn the puller and heated the gear with propane torch (very hot) but not red hot. It looks like the shaft has gone further up the tractor PTO than it should and is stuck. Today I'll give you some tips that will allow you to get the PTO to extend without breaking your back or damaging the yoke.LINKS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUTThe Tractor Fun Store: https://asktractormike.com/products-for-sale/Support the Tractor Mike Channel: https://www.patreon.com/TractorMikeVisit the Tractor Mike website: http://asktractormike.com/ Visit Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/Ask-Tractor-Mike-312112962245304/Copyright 2019 Tractor Mike LLC So, I ended up sliding the drive shaft apart to allow removal of the mower deck. JavaScript is disabled. Be sure thats not disconnected or bent either. Its better to be safe than sorry. But you should only employ extreme measures if the splines are already worn-out or twisted. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", Not much fun and still do not have pto out of tractor. Mr. When you come back the shaft will go on on the first or second try. Then how do I pull it out with the shaft in my way? Nevertheless, your tractor should not be moving at a breakneck speed when engaging the PTO shaft. That's the process of removing and installing a mower deck on a Kubota BX series tractor. . "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=1149189", Ed is one of our Technicians at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment. Dont get it red hot ,just heat . "@type": "ImageObject", Wondering if your driveline is too long. When shifted one way, it should be free, turning very easily. If this doesnt work, you can try applying more force- a Tractor Seats; Trans and Rear Axle; Umbrellas and Buggy Tops; Weld-on Axles & Hubs; Combine Parts. When the implement's PTO shaft engages the PTO driveshaft of the tractor, the shaft turns 1,000 times per minute. Removal of PTO Shaft From PHD Gearbox - TractorByNet 1953 Minneapolis Moline ZAU. Its important to note that most of the discussed methods work only if the PTO shaft is still in good shape and not cracked/bent (a twisted shaft wont allow telescoping). Where are you located that might help some of the locals give you names. Was thinking pull the shaft out first then figure out how to get the shaft seal out. More than one way to accomplish this . Sat: 8:00 a.m. 4:00 p.m. Sun: Closed, Mon Fri: 7:30 a.m. 5:30 p.m. With easy online ordering and same day shipping. where the weather took away the grease. Needless to say, you must be careful with the brute force Thanks, that makes sense. You could have a bad clutch pack, but its very unlikely that its leaky. Its inside, and the process to fix it will be extremely involved. If that key is sheared it will not allow the gear to come off shaft. So now I just have a short section of the shaft connected (stuck) to the PTO shaft. So I can see a scenario where this is not noticed, the mower get used like this, then the shaft becomes stuck further up on the pto shaft than it should be. you. In his free time, he enjoys theatrical sound design for local theater and home improvement projects at home. No go. Knock the pins out to have more working room. Refrain from forcing or wrestling the shaft away from the tractor by using a chain to tie up the PTO coupler, then driving forward the tractor to disengage the PTO coupler. Welcome! If that hole is perpendicular to the center of the driveshaft, then my best guess is that it is threaded and that is a hex drive set screw. Kameryn also enjoys hunting, fishing, cooking, Texas BBQ, and riding his motorcycle across the country. He went to Brazosport College and has played guitar for over ten years. The seal sits inside that. Still wont budge. Most of the time I end up pushing mine further than it needs to go then pulling it back until the pin pops into place. }, Our experienced staff can help. An easy pressure test on the control valve would reveal if this is the underlying issue or not. When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. I could'nt get the drive shaft to slide all the way onto the PTO, unless I once again split the shaft and got under the tractor to get better leverage. Orin is an Assembler at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment and is currently a student at BCC. your tractor. "text": "Any advice on how to remove the PTO shaft from the housing? Probably the key is partly sheared inside. 3-Point Hitch - Disconnecting 3 point tiller - TractorByNet Remove the PTO shield from the tractor. PTO Shaft and potentially seriously destroy the tractor. The three speed pto and power steering have made it more difficult. Another method that helps when PTO shaft wont slide is These locking mechanisms may be pins or balls. Further, safety is an issue. Its not Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards? Glad you got it back together. let it sit for a few minutes, and then attempt to pull the uncooperative part I used a big socket to drive it out. You might call another Kubota shop. A fun fact about Chris is that hes a Wyoming Transplant and grew up farming and ranching. Easy PTO quick connect for tractor attachments - PTO Link Kubota Tractor PTO Problems Tip: This problem occurs when a bush hog, for instance, is shut off when the power is cut from the PTO. I had one on the super that would not move it took a tremendous a lot of heat . I'll start working on it in the morning and let you guys know how it goes. You should know that the damage to a clutch pack is caused by overloading the PTO with the task its given to power. In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. 4. How Can You Remove the PTO Shaft from Your Tractor? Another way you can check to be sure it is the clutch pack (because it could be the drive chain jumped off), raise and block up the tiller so it cannot fall, shut tractor completely off and . Then the entire white thing in picture 3 rotates CCW. Youll notice the driveshaft running from the clutch at the engine over to the gearbox at the back of your tractor. steady pulling tension (the chain is typically fixed to an immovable object). "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" Had to do this to split the tractor. application of a penetrant) works like a charm most of the time. apart again. Disconnecting your PTO shaft is now as simple as removing the plunger pin, then pulling the release on the spring-loaded shear/locking pin. Stay tuned for episode 3 coming up later. BX2360, FEL, MMM, BX2750D snowblower. I used the original bolt to bolt the gear back on. You must regularly maintain your PTO shaft to ensure that it will work well and disengage from the tractor with ease. Roger is one of our Technicians and has 20+ years of equipment experience. Locate the pin or button that keeps the shaft locked to the tractor. Also, if the PTO clutch and gearbox are engaged, and the PTO still does not turn, then your problem is likely extensive. "publisher": { My pto shaft was shot also. I'm onto phase 3 with this challenge. It's going to be tuff to get that gear off but I have done it. The three speed pto and power steering have made it more difficult. I drafted the my suggestion to your photo . I can only imagine the bill at a dealership. Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? Afterward, you can set to ON the PTO switch. Spent the day working removing top off tractor to expose rear gears. Moreover, tractors with PTO driveshafts can pull any type of PTO-driven equipment. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. Sometimes, you only need to give it a gentle nudge, and it will loosen up. The problem could be surfacing because of several things. The 3 jaws fit into the holes in the gear. You can also use WD40 to soak the stubborn parts. You do not want to end up with a damaged PTO shaft. However, if the shaft doesnt break loose, you JavaScript is disabled. This is a difficult job! I noticed on the gear someone touched it with a welding rod perhaps to heat it up I suspect. Kubota tractor PTO not engaging? In his free time, Christian enjoys working with equipment and vehicles. What do I do if the PTO shaft turns even though the PTO is not engaged? I then was able to get under the tractor and . wiggle free. How to Connect & Remove a PTO Shaft from Tractor My pto shaft was shot also. ", on it. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. Looks like the seal could come out frontwards but I have no way to grab it or push it out. Schedule the oiling and greasing of your implements and the PTO shaft to keep its universal joints in top-notch condition. The combination of heat and easy hammering (after abundant A PTO shaft also tends to get corroded in just a few months If that key is sheared it will not allow the gear to come off shaft. That s what I did, found a couple for $6 each. - YouTube 0:00 / 11:38 KUBOTA front PTO removal! Mon Fri: 8 a.m. 6:30 p.m. Another way to disengage the PTO shaft from the tractor is by dismantling the PTO shaft assembly. Some users have noticed the PTO shaft turning even when the PTO is not engaged. On my finish mower my shaft is close to being too short (story of my life). "width": 200, Finally, attempt to turn the PTO shaft manually. kubota bx2380 with brush hog,scoop,bellie mower and road grading, I have a new tractor which we have not been able to remove the brush hog from the tractor as the drive shaft keep pulling apart in the middle, You might have to shove it forward first, then pull back on the collar and pull the shaft off. I used a big socket to drive it out. If the inner and outer shafts bottom out on each other, something has to give. Check your warranty to see if this safety concern is covered. Dave I would suggest heavy duty 3 jaw puller located into the three holes of the gear. You dont have to hit the PTO with so much force. The pto shaft is held in the front by a washer and a nut. You can concoct your penetrating oil if you dont want to rely on the WD40. Simply attach the male plate of the PTO Link to your implement's drive-line then attach the female plate of the PTO Link to the tractor's PTO spline. Anyone know a helpful dealership? Depressing plastic visible in four holes in vaned cone shield ring unsnaps plastic and allows leading edge of plastic bell to be peeled back thereby exposing PTO collar slide pin. I just did the same seal on my Super C. Pull that gear off, mine wasn t terrible. Sat: 8:00 a.m. 3:00 p.m. Sun: Closed. It would be very tough to pull from the outside. Yes I know the shaft seal will be a bear to get out even chopped into pieces. The release pin won't budge. You can opt to make your own penetrating oil, too instead of pegging your hopes on the WD40. Move them around while prying. Kamryn is one of our Parts Counter Personnel and a Certified Kubota Parts Pro. However, just like any mechanical equipment, the PTO shaft may also get stuck to the tractor and may be difficult to disengage, especially if it has been sitting there for a long time. When I get that gear off and finally get the shaft out so I can get at the seal I think I'll use a speedi-sleeve with 2 new style SKF seals. of sitting. In her free time, she enjoys baking and reading. Let the lube sits there for a while. You can begin by stepping on the clutch pedal and let your foot stay in that position. On this size machine, this is actually a fairly simple process. Was prepared to split the tractor first thing in the morning. "@type": "WebPage", You must pull this gear straight down the axis to shaft if not you grab and Gaul shaft ,. Thanks so much to everyone that took time to try to help. Put a strap around the arm of puller so they dont slip off the gear. Afterward, tap the PTO coupling again to budge it. Remove four bolts and pull out. "dateModified": "2023-04-28", I drilled a pilot hole(counter sink) in the center of the new bolt. How to remove PTO shaft | OrangeTractorTalks - Everything Kubota I had to cut of a large portion of the protective plastic shield (bell portion) because there was no way to get your hand inside it to push the release pin and slide the driveshaft off. You should be able to lift the PTO guard up to get better access also, L185F, Modern Ag Competitor 4 shredder, Rhino tiller, rear dirt scoop, You can usually disconnect the shield and pull it out of the way (make the plastic shaft cover shorter). "userInteractionCount": 17 I had the same problem puting the deck back on. Garrett is one of our Sales Representatives and has been with Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment for five years. Any advice on how to remove the PTO shaft from the housing?Looks like the someone welded a steel piece on for the seal, is this standard?Heat the hous . Spray the shaft with plenty of lubricating oil to ease it up, Kinley is one of our Parts Counter Personnel and a Certified Kubota Parts Pro. If the cause of the jamming of the PTO shaft is corrosion, you can employ the lube method. I bought a new bolt like the one that holds the gear on. How to Remove a PTO Shaft - Career Trend "@type": "ImageObject", Reach underneath the safety shroud and feel around the implement shaft coupling with your fingers. into the open space. dismantling the assembly. Looks like it may have a pin or a bolt holding it on the shaft. Shaft comes out towards rear of the tractor, Okay! Success!! In his free time, Jaycob enjoys traveling, learning, and doing anything outdoors. Today youll discover some common Kubota tractor PTO (power take-off) issues and how to troubleshoot them. Sure, it might work for some people } The pully seal was similar difficulty. Point taken, except I'd have to burn out the rubber seal and the felt wiper. I tried to do it by myself and it was a disaster Also I highly recommend you have a helper to keep the unit straight and apply heat if necessary , All I wanted to accomplish was to replace a leaking shaft seal. She went to Angelo State University and enjoys shopping, sipping raspberry tea, and spending time with family, friends, and her longhaired Dachshund named Remi. See more. The drive shaft actually comes apart. Point taken, except I'd have to burn out the rubber seal and the felt wiper. PTO shaftsliding out in a short while. Moreover, you may end up with a damaged PTO shaft and tractor. Kubota - PTO and Related Parts - PTO Parts - Tractor Parts The pully seal was similar difficulty. The onset of rust will indeed happen, especially if the PTO shafts are exposed to moisture, and you dont run the PTO shafts with grease for a long time. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. When I get that gear off the shaftwhen I meet with Mr.Success again I'm gonna say how very grateful I am and ask to meet him again soon after. Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment is here to serve you. The other is for a PTO shifter. You can find the PTO switch on the dashboard. Look at the yoke and see if the tractor pto shaft is sticking all the way thru toward the u-joint. "name": "Smarten_up" even though its the most dependable solution if your shaft is slightly deformed. If the shaft has slid forward further then it should, then the locking pin is probably bound into the metal on the tractor side of the slot. This is because you dont need to step on the clutch pedal to accomplish it. I tried to do it by myself and it was a disaster Also I highly recommend you have a helper to keep the unit straight and apply heat if necessary , I would suggest heavy duty 3 jaw puller located into the three holes of the gear.
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